Thursday, 11 November 2010

Is it Cool to be Anti-Icke?

There is something I've noticed on the conference scene. Among conspiracy researchers it's become very trendy and prestigious to dislike David Icke and his work. It's almost become a kind of badge of one’s own self-perceived sophistication! They say things like "Yeah I started reading his kids' stuff but I've evolved beyond that now". I often get ridiculed by other researchers; when I say that I like David and am still very interested in his discoveries. Take a look at the HPANWO Forum on the links column. In fact at a live show in Brighton I went to, the speaker made a joke on stage about David being my "hero"; and on the HPANWO Forum they even say that I “adulate” and “worship” him as my “guru”. I don't mind people making jokes about me, but what's wrong with admiring someone and appreciating the wonderful gift they've given me?

This cool and trendy anti-Icke tendency in conspiracy research comes across as a bit childish.
It may well be that David has got it wrong, seriously, in some areas. It's also likely that he's under psychic attack and that dark forces are taking advantage of him. This kind of trendy "anti-Icke" culture rears its ugly head among serious and otherwise clued-up researchers whom I thought better of.

It doesn't bother me so much when a person who's been exposed only to Conformist media comes up and ridicules David, in a way that's to be expected and I'd have done the same once, but it does bother me when somebody who understands the conspiracy sits around with his mates back-slapping over how much more "in there, man" they are than David’s fans. I thought the whole idea of conferences was to get above all that childish, egotistical sniping and griping. Sure I don't agree with everything David says, but that doesn't mean he's not someone to listen to and admire for his contribution to our awareness.

Marmite-Lover, a friend of mine (See links) has come up with a wonderful term to describe conspiracy researchers who are too far up their own arses "synchro-mystical”. There's too much ego-driven "criticism" and competition. I don't get into that. I do my own thing. I don't see myself as having to live up to any standards that other researchers set. But I learn from all. If I think somebody is talking 99% nonsense then I'll learn from their 1% and appreciate it rather than put them down for their 99%.

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Amanda said...

I've noticed the same thing. I suspect it's a phase, similar to what early adolescents go through with their parents when they start to realise that mom and dad are only human, and won't be leading them by the hand any longer. It's too easy to forget that they were there when you needed them, and will continue to be there for those who come after you.
David has gone through a LOT for the sake of truth, and he's done more than any other person I can think of to shed light on dark places. I personally owe him a great big thank you. I suspect that many of his detractors are too young, or too new to this information to remember when he was pretty much the only one speaking about it.
He is only one man though, and can't do everything. So of course TPTB have planted their own in his circle, who are busily undermining and discreditting. It's a tactic that works well on anyone who takes an all-or-nothing approach to information.

You might mention to your friend that the term "synchromysticism" is already in use. It refers to a particular way of viewing reality and culture, similar to divination or dream analysis. It's practitioners make note of synchronistic appearances of symbolic themes, tracking them and speculating on their meaning.

Ben Emlyn-Jones said...

Hi Muluc. Thanks for your comment. I'll mention to Marmite-Lover that her term is not original.

If you look at the HPANWO Forum you'll see that the main anti-Icke brigade are people who used to be "devout Icke disciples". I put those words in quotes because David's message is that NOBODY should ever become a disciple or follower of him! Anyone who hangs on his every word has missed the entire point of them. He says as much in as many words: "If something I say doesn't sound right to you- ignore it!" Just like that. This is what I have done. I've listened to him, I admire and respect him, but I'm definitely not a "follower" or "disciple" and this is what he wants other people to be. The problem is that for people who DO see him as a "Guru" and "Messiah", when he fails them, by for instance not giving them spoon-fed answers, in their immature minds they feel betrayed and rejected. This is why George Gurjieff was often very harsh and decietful to people he was teaching. It was a way of preventing them becoming TOO fond of him! He was trying to give information without breeding dependence and helping his students stand on their own two feet. said...

Excellent blog. I see my wife has added her comments. I will just mention how much I admire his dedication under duress. We update his site almost daily and find great value in his work.

Namaste, my brother, love is all there is...

Amanda said...

That's a really good point, Ben. Responsible people who have a lot of important information to share will often say, "Don't believe me," and they really do mean it! Sadly, it seems as though many people hear those words and then think something like, "Oh, he must be trustworthy or he wouldn't say that, so I can believe whatever he says." They're most often right in believing that they're not being lied to, but everyone can make mistakes. Personally, I'd be horrified if I thought that anyone believed everything I said just because I said it.

Ben Emlyn-Jones said...

Hi Christopher, I like the look of both your blogs. I'm following them. However not "following" in the wat that breeds worship and dependency! :-)

Mister Jack said...

Your an incredible writer Ben, I wish I could write like this, jeeze louise.

Ben Emlyn-Jones said...

Thanks, Mark. Glad you like my contribution to the Blogosphere.

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Anonymous said...

"Dedication under duress" or defication under a dress??
Icke is a third rate bullshiter and serves only as an IQ barometer. Only a moronic philistine could appreciate him